Episode 141Feb 13, 2026· 44:20

➿ The Tension of Platforms & Why I Haven’t Left Substack (Yet)

Show notes from the creator
If you're stressed about using Spotify, Substack, Google, Instagram, or any other platforms... this episode is for you! Today I'm talking about how to choose platforms & tech tools without selling your soul — and why I'm still on Substack even though I kinda hate it. 🫠 Tune in to hear me break down: Tools vs Platforms Questions to ask before you choose a new tool What to do about the bad politics of platforms Why there's no purity on the internet Four strategies for rethinking your choices Tech stack harm reduction The big decision I made about Substack RESOURCES + LINKS 👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit 🌐 Get on the Interweb waitlist for courses + community 💓 Join the Clubhouse for more episodes + emails 📔 Buy Amelia's book at yourattentionissacred.com!   FREE GIFTS OF THE WEEK ❊ 7-Day Savings Challenge from Dalene Higgins ❊ Toolkit for Navigating Capitalism & Other Fuckery from Kristi Amdahl ❊ More free resources from Close Biz Friends!
About this episode
Amelia Hruby works through how she decides which online tools and platforms to use when she disagrees with their owners' politics or values — covering Substack's Nazi content moderation failures, Spotify CEO Daniel Ek's AI military investments, Amazon KDP and distribution lock-in, Riverside's founders' IDF background, and her refusal to use generative AI tools like ChatGPT and Claude. She introduces a…
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Notable quotes

"This will solve problems. I wanna stay rooted in my own experience. I wanna identify my own problems and then go seek out tools to help solve them. I don't want tools arriving to me telling me I have a problem, and then I start using them to fix that problem I didn't realize I had. So I really try to keep close to this pulse of like, where is the friction in my work?"

Amelia Hruby

"Honestly, that shift means I'm gonna get less functionality for more money. Like, it's gonna cost me money to move there. I will be paying them more than I currently pay Substack in their 10% cut of my earnings each year. I also won't be able to do video with the ease I've been able to. There's a lot more I have to deal with with the podcast side of things."

Amelia Hruby

"Sometimes your business surviving is a higher priority than you feeling good about the founders of every tool you use. Sometimes your personal integrity is a higher priority than making some more money on Substack. Right? Like, what I hope to provide in this episode was a series of questions and examples that could help you figure out your priorities and make decisions that you feel comfortable with and proud of. So I hope that that's what you got here today."

Amelia Hruby

Episode transcript

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Mentioned in this episode
personAmelia Hruby
Host of Off The Grid, shares her own journey navigating online business without social media and reflects on platform values throughout the episode.
personHarry Doull
Guest Amelia spoke to earlier in season nine, runs Keap Candles — his conversation about values alignment in business prompted this episode.
companyKeap Candles
Harry Doull's company, mentioned as the subject of a season nine episode about values alignment in business.
companySubstack
The platform Amelia currently hosts the Clubhouse on — she is planning to leave it because Substack is explicitly pushing to become social media and emails her subscribers without her knowledge.
companySpotify
About 30% of Amelia's podcast listeners use it — she keeps her podcast there but refuses to use Spotify's publishing tools and stopped listening to music on it due to CEO Daniel Ek's investments in AI military technology.
personDaniel Ek
Spotify's CEO, cited by the listener question and Amelia as being invested in AI military drones and other technologies she finds objectionable.
companyShopify
Used by Amelia as an example of a true tool — it solves a specific problem (selling online) for a specific user without becoming a marketplace.
companyEtsy
Used as an example of a platform that started as a tool for crafters but became a search-engine marketplace that serves its owners over its users.
personCory Doctorow
Author whose articles and books on 'enshittification' Amelia references to explain how VC-funded platforms extract value from users after reaching critical mass.
companyAmazon
Amelia refuses to use Amazon's publishing tools (KDP) but her paperback ended up on the platform anyway through IngramSpark's distribution network — she also notes most of the internet runs on Amazon Web Services.
companyAmazon Web Services
Cited as running the majority of the US internet, making complete platform purity impossible — Amelia can't even confirm which tools use it.
companyMeta
Amelia says she has no Facebook account and hasn't logged into Instagram in years — she opts out of all Meta apps entirely.
productChatGPT
A generative AI tool Amelia has stopped using — she says it doesn't solve problems she meaningfully had before it existed and she objects to the exploitative practices of the companies behind such tools.
productClaude
A generative AI tool Amelia deleted her account for as part of her decision to stop using generative AI tools entirely.
companyIngramSpark
The self-publishing platform Amelia used for her book — she discovered it gives no option to opt the print edition out of Amazon distribution, forcing a compromise she wasn't fully comfortable with.
productKindle Direct Publishing
Amazon's self-publishing tool — Amelia explicitly chose not to use it when self-publishing her book because she didn't want to be locked into Amazon's platform.
productAudible
Amazon's audiobook platform — Amelia declined to sign the separate agreement required to put her audiobook there.
companyTransistor
Amelia's paid podcast hosting platform — she pays for it specifically to avoid using Spotify's free publishing tool, valuing its functionality and the tool-not-platform relationship.
companyGhost
The platform Amelia is moving the Clubhouse to from Substack — she notes it will cost more and offer less functionality but better aligns with her values.
companyOutpost
A tool Amelia plans to use alongside Ghost to manage the private podcast side of the Clubhouse after leaving Substack.
companyRiverside
The audio and video recording platform Amelia continues to use despite learning its founders are former IDF soldiers whose politics she strongly opposes — she left their affiliate program and added disclosure notes but found no comparable alternative.
companyDescript
Mentioned as a common alternative to Riverside that Amelia says she doesn't want to use for unspecified other reasons.
companySquarespace
Cited as an example of a tool that hosts on AWS, illustrating how Amazon's platform reach is unavoidable even when using seemingly unrelated tools.
companyFlodesk
Amelia's email service provider — used as an example of a tool where her use doesn't force subscribers onto any particular platform, contrasted with Substack's behavior.
personMelissa Kaitlyn Carter
Sings the theme song heard at the start of every Off The Grid episode.
websiteBandcamp
Where Amelia now primarily listens to music she owns, after moving away from Spotify and Apple Music.
companyApple Music
An intermediate step in Amelia's move away from Spotify — she switched to it before eventually landing on Bandcamp.
websiteoffthegrid.fun/toolkit
The URL Amelia directs listeners to for downloading her free leaving social media toolkit.
Key themes
Tool vs. platform distinction
Amelia builds a core framework distinguishing tools (specific utility, serve the user) from platforms (gather people, ultimately serve the owners), using Shopify vs. Etsy and Substack as concrete examples.
Values misalignment with platform owners
The listener question and Amelia's own stewing over Substack, Spotify, Riverside, and Amazon all center on what to do when you deeply disagree with the politics or behavior of the people who own the tools you depend on.
Enshittification of platforms
Amelia references Cory Doctorow's concept of enshittification to explain how VC-funded platforms pump value to early adopters and then extract money from the people they've gathered, pointing to Instagram, Twitter/X, Facebook, and Substack as examples.
Substack pushing itself onto subscribers without permission
Amelia describes receiving reports from her own subscribers that Substack is sending them emails recommending follows, pushing the app, and nudging paid upgrades — none of which she authorized — making her feel complicit in pulling people into Substack's ecosystem.
No purity on the internet
Amelia insists from the outset that total platform purity is impossible — most of the internet runs on Amazon Web Services regardless of individual choices — and frames her four strategies as pragmatic navigation rather than a clean ethical escape.
Moving the Clubhouse from Substack to Ghost
Amelia announces she is leaving Substack for Ghost and Outpost later in the year, acknowledging it will cost more money and lose functionality, but that staying has become incompatible with her integrity around Off The Grid.
Selective opt-out when full exit isn't possible
Amelia explains how she refuses to use Amazon's KDP and Spotify's publishing tools while accepting that her book and podcast still appear on those platforms through distribution networks she can't fully control.
Harm reduction as a strategy for tools you can't leave
Amelia describes staying on Riverside despite its founders' politics she opposes — leaving their affiliate program, adding disclosure notes, and stopping recommendations — as a way of limiting complicity without a viable exit.
Refusing generative AI tools
Amelia explains she deleted her Claude account and stopped using ChatGPT because generative AI doesn't solve problems she meaningfully has and because the companies behind it are, in her view, highly exploitative of the natural environment and colonial in their methods.
Following the money to understand a platform's real priorities
Amelia walks through how a tool's revenue model — subscription fee vs. free with ads or a cut of earnings — reveals whether it is actually serving the user or the owner, and uses this as a practical due-diligence step before adopting any new software.