Episode 153Mar 27, 2026Β· 30:24

πŸ€– 3 Reasons You Feel So Conflicted About AI

β–Έ Show notes from the creator
Let's get into all our feels about AI. πŸŒ€ In this episode, I share some of the messages I've gotten from people who are using AI but feeling bad about it. And I talk through three reasons I think many of us (especially listeners of this show) feel so much tension about these technologies. Tune in for a lot of empathy and even more clarity. Then join our community conversation about AI in the Clubhouse! MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE Find all the episodes in our AI series here The Tension of Platforms & Why I Haven’t Left Substack (Yet) Cut Off the Spigot: ChatGPT Alternatives What is Moral Injury? (from the Moral Injury Project) AI is African Intelligence: The Workers Who Train AI Are Fighting Back (from 404 Media) The Emotional Labor Behind AI Intimacy AI has an environmental problem (from the UN) AI Doesn’t Reduce Workβ€” It Intensifies It (from HBR) If you want to learn about ethical approaches to AI, I recommend:Shae Omonijo's work β€” Find her on Substack or listen to Critical Thinking in the Age of AI (on Apple & Spotify) & Aggressively Human Podcast with Jessica Lackey and Meg Casebolt Β  RESOURCES + LINKS πŸ‘‹ Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit 🌐 Get on the Interweb waitlist for courses + community πŸ‘‰ Join our conversation about AI in the Clubhouse Β  Β  FREE GIFTS OF THE WEEK ❊ 7-Day Savings Challenge from Dalene Higgins ❊ Toolkit for Navigating Capitalism & Other Fuckery from Kristi Amdahl ❊ More free resources from Close Biz Friends!
About this episode
Amelia Hruby explores why creative and value-centered small business owners feel conflicted about using generative AI tools, framing the tension across three overlapping reasons: the structural similarity between AI companies and social media platforms (big tech ownership, content theft, terms-of-service appropriation); the capitalist productivity trap where AI promises efficiency but research shows it just…
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Notable quotes

"And in some ways, think it's doubly hard as someone who's self employed because there's a certain injury to your boss telling you, you have to use AI. But when you're your boss, and you're telling you you have to use AI even though you don't want to, that's just a mind fuck. Right? Like, it's so hard. And so as I say all of that, like, I wish I had a solution for you."

β€” Amelia Hruby

"Moral injury is the damage done to one's conscience or moral compass when that person perpetrates, witnesses, or fails to prevent acts that transgress one's own moral beliefs, values, or ethical codes of conduct. So a lot of the early literature on moral injury actually came out of psychological and sociological studies of people in the military who had to do things that like went against their personal beliefs or values or even like religious morals, and then had to grapple with that, and had to live with that. And like, how do we do that? And I think that in the case of AI, what I've just been hearing over and over and over again is that people are using it and then feeling bad about that. I literally have gotten lines and emails like, I feel so guilty about how I'm using AI. Or I'm concerned about natural resources, privacy, theft of my work, loss of human agency, concentration of power, effect on the economy. And yet, I use it because it makes me more efficient in my business, and then I can make more money to support my family. I cannot tell you how many emails I have gotten like this, and how much empathy I have for them. And those are all from folks who are self employed. It doesn't even get into the folks that I know who have jobs and are being told that they have to use AI."

β€” Amelia Hruby

"Right? And so I think that that is one real side of conflict for many of us. And I'll be honest, this is basically where I sat for all of 2025. As I've shared in conversations during this series, I did use ChatGPT and Claude for some projects and some email writing here and there. And as I did that, I was just sitting in this tension of realizing that I was going back to a different technology that just replicated all of the same patterns that I talk about about social media all the time."

β€” Amelia Hruby

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Mentioned in this episode
organizationAnthropic
Amelia cites court documentation that Anthropic stole all the books used to train their AI models, using this as evidence that AI companies behave like social media platforms in appropriating others' content.
companyInstagram
Mentioned as an example of a social media platform whose terms of service require users to sign away rights to their content, paralleling how AI companies appropriate user data.
companyTikTok
Cited alongside Instagram as a platform whose terms of service allow the company to use all user content for marketing or training, illustrating the parallel between social media and AI companies.
productChatGPT
One of the generative AI tools Amelia admits she used in 2025 for some projects and email writing, while sitting in tension about replicating the same patterns she criticizes in social media.
productClaude
Named alongside ChatGPT as one of the AI tools Amelia used for some projects and email writing during 2025, while feeling conflicted about it.
organizationSyracuse University Moral Injury Project
Amelia pulls her definition of moral injury directly from this project, crediting it as the source of the concept she uses to frame why people feel guilty using AI.
websiteCut Off The Spigot
A resource by someone Amelia calls her 'new friend Alexa' that has compiled a list of AI tools considered more ethical than others, which Amelia recommends as a harm reduction approach for conflicted AI users.
company404 Media
Amelia references a 404 Media article called 'AI is African Intelligence' and a related podcast episode about workers in Africa who do data labeling for AI training and suffer severe mental health costs.
personMichael Joffrey Asia
A worker in Kenya interviewed by 404 Media about his experience doing AI data labeling work, whose first-hand testimony about how it negatively impacted his life and relationships Amelia links to in the show notes.
personMelissa Kaitlyn Carter
Singer of the theme song heard at the start of every Off The Grid episode, thanked in the closing credits.
personSurfer Boy
Musical artist whose song 'Social Media,' performed with Wreck Tangle, is played in an abridged version near the end of the episode; listeners are directed to find the full song on Spotify.
personWreck Tangle
Collaborator with Surfer Boy on the song 'Social Media' played near the end of the episode.
websiteoffthegrid.fun
Amelia's website where listeners can download the free Leaving Social Media Toolkit, mentioned in the closing.
personAlexa
Described by Amelia as her 'new friend' who runs Cut Off The Spigot and has done research compiling a list of more ethical AI tools, which Amelia recommends for harm reduction.
Key themes
AI feels like social media all over again
Amelia draws a direct parallel between the big tech companies behind popular AI tools and social media platforms β€” same growth-and-profit logic, same content appropriation β€” creating an uncanny tension for listeners who already stepped back from social media.
AI works even though social media stopped working
Amelia describes the specific bind where AI is genuinely effective β€” it writes the email, it affirms you β€” unlike social media which felt bad and stopped reaching audiences, making it harder to apply the same values-based rejection.
Capitalism and the productivity trap
Amelia frames AI as the ultimate productivity promise under capitalism, but points to early research and her own observations showing that doing more with AI just results in more work being piled on, not more rest or freedom.
Labor harm and who pays the price
Amelia links to reporting on AI data labelers in Africa suffering mental health harm from data labeling work, framing this as a layer of harm that people using AI for efficiency are insulated from seeing.
Environmental and colonial cost of AI infrastructure
Amelia connects AI data centers, mining, and water use to a longer history of colonial extraction, arguing that many white US-based online workers are being forced to reckon with these realities for the first time.
Moral injury from using tools you believe are harmful
Amelia introduces moral injury β€” damage to one's conscience when acting against one's own values β€” as the umbrella concept explaining why listeners feel guilty using AI even as they keep using it.
The particular bind of being your own boss
Amelia distinguishes the experience of self-employed people who are simultaneously the boss telling themselves to use AI and the person who doesn't want to, calling it 'a mind fuck' that compounds the moral injury.
Harm reduction as a response to moral injury
Amelia offers using a curated list of more ethical AI tools as a harm reduction approach β€” framing it as a way to stay within the systems you can't fully escape while minimizing the damage.
Writing a personal AI policy to set down the guilt
Amelia suggests writing a personal AI policy β€” deciding in advance what you will and won't do β€” as a way to stop relitigating the decision every time and release the ongoing guilt and tension.