Episode 77Nov 7, 2025· 49:38
How a Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner Wrote 4 Books in 60 Hours Using AI (Without AI Writing a Single Word)
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What if you could write a book in a weekend? Psychiatric nurse practitioner Andrew Hewitt did exactly that, creating four comprehensive business books in just 60 hours by using AI as an interview coach instead of a ghostwriter. In this game-changing episode, Andrew reveals his exact process for turning his expertise into published books without spending years writing or letting AI put words in his mouth.
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00:03
The Bloggy Friends Show. What's up, my bloggy
00:25
friends? Famous Ashley Grant here, and I just
00:27
want to welcome you to the Bloggy Friends Show.
00:29
We're so excited to have you join us on this
00:31
journey of sharing our knowledge and experiences
00:33
with you. Whether you're a blogger, a content
00:35
creator, or just someone who's interested in
00:37
learning more about the digital world, we've
00:39
got something for you. So grab your notebook
00:41
and a pen to take some notes or just sit back
00:43
and take in all the amazing information and ideas
00:45
we're about to share with you. Let's get into
00:47
it. Well, welcome, Andrew, to the show. I was
00:50
so excited that you were down to chat with me
00:53
because you're releasing a book. So, let's kind
00:57
of just jump in. Tell me a little bit about yourself,
00:59
a little bit of background, and all the good
01:01
things. So, my name is Andrew Hewitt. I am a
01:04
psychiatric nurse practitioner, board certified.
01:06
I am located on the west coast of Florida in
01:12
the Tampa Bay area, and I am licensed in 30 different
01:16
states right now for telehealth. Oh, wow. I didn't
01:20
even know that part. That's fun. So, what do
01:22
you do? In your day to day, like as your day
01:26
gig. All right. So I own and operate a mental
01:31
health practice here in Newport, Ritchie, located
01:34
in Pasco County. So I see patients for mental
01:38
health issues as well as I am the chief nurse
01:41
practitioner here. So all the other nurse practitioners
01:43
and therapists, if they have a clinical problem,
01:45
they come to me and I help them to address it.
01:48
Fascinating. OK, wow. So you do like a lot of
01:52
things. And that's just here for Caliper. I have
01:55
two other companies that I run. One of them is
01:59
Excelsior Consulting, where I help nurse practitioners
02:03
or PAs or even doctors leave their corporate
02:06
job and expand out and branch out onto their
02:09
own to start their own practice, which is where
02:10
the books come from. Okay. Now, do you focus
02:13
on virtual businesses for all the people you
02:16
work with? So the thing with the books is there
02:18
are four books in total. So the first book takes
02:20
you from that idea. to a telepractice. The second
02:23
book is a telepractice to a brick and mortar.
02:25
And then the third book is brick and mortar to
02:27
multiple locations, multiple providers. And the
02:29
fourth book is all about marketing and how I
02:31
marketed the practice to get it to expand. Okay.
02:34
And so that's kind of what I wanted to jam on
02:37
today. I wanted to talk about how you created
02:39
these books and how, like the process of you
02:42
writing it. We recently had Robin Vaughn. We
02:45
had her on talking about how she wrote her first
02:47
book after it's a, it's a fiction book after
02:50
many years of doing nonfiction, but you are doing
02:53
a nonfiction book, but the way you did it is
02:55
what got me so excited and what made me want
02:58
to talk to you. So tell me a little bit about
03:00
the process of you creating your book and how
03:02
you went about it. For my type of book, which
03:05
I guess is like a do it yourself type book. It
03:08
was pretty easy. So I I'm going to be an I group,
03:11
which is a networking group. It's international
03:13
networking group. And someone had a guest come
03:15
in one time. She was teaching a class on how
03:18
to use AI to write a book. And I was skeptical
03:21
because I'm thinking AI is going to have AI write
03:23
the book, which I would never would want to do.
03:26
So I took the class, but I took the class because
03:29
the person who does our marketing, my friend
03:31
Ryan Thompson of Hydrus Connect, he does our
03:33
website, all our marketing. He told me one day
03:35
just in passing, hey, you know, I wrote a book
03:38
like 10 years ago and I could never get the endings.
03:40
I just don't know how to get the ending. So I
03:41
paid for the class for him. to see how AI would
03:45
help him maybe come write the ending. So he comes
03:48
to my office. I told him I just checked his class,
03:50
and I sat here with him. He took it. So the class
03:53
was over. He's like, that was awesome. I think
03:55
I could do this. I was like, all right, awesome.
03:57
So how much time do you need to get your book
03:58
finished? He's like, no, I want to do this for
04:01
you. I was like, what? He's like, I'm going to
04:03
use their prompts that they gave me in the class.
04:06
I want to alter them for you, and then I'm going
04:09
to interview you. based on the questions that
04:12
the AI, that chat GPT professional that he uses
04:16
gives me. So that is where the books came from.
04:19
He had chat GPT come up with the questions for
04:22
me for the book. And then he sat down and interviewed
04:25
me for the book. And then he just typed out all
04:28
my answers. And that's where the book came from.
04:31
Each question is a chapter of the book. And the
04:34
questions came from chat GPT, but I actually
04:38
answered them. Okay, so basically, The difference
04:42
between what some people are suggesting to do
04:44
and what you did is instead of actually putting
04:46
in your ideas and having AI write the stuff,
04:49
you treated it as a almost like a book coach.
04:53
Yes, for sure. For sure. So, yeah, the chat GPT
04:57
essentially interviewed me and then Ryan transcribed
05:00
my my responses. And then we used chat GPT to
05:03
format it all. And then I just went through and
05:06
took out like any grammar. changes that they
05:08
made uh that to your chat you begin automatically
05:10
or how i just didn't like the way something was
05:12
worded but sometimes it converts stuff for you
05:14
without you wanting it to convert stuff and they
05:18
were just formatting it you know to book form
05:20
okay so if you had written it by yourself versus
05:23
using ai what do you think that would have looked
05:25
like i i never would have done it i never i know
05:28
that i am way too busy with the three different
05:31
companies i run to sit down and be like oh i'm
05:33
gonna write a book i wouldn't have even known
05:35
you know So how fast was it whenever you were
05:40
using the program? So the interviews with Ryan
05:44
were about two hours each time. And he sat down
05:47
with me for five different sessions of interviews.
05:50
And then we just met a couple other times for
05:53
about two or three hours at a time to just go
05:55
over format and what I wanted for the artwork
05:57
or the cover. And then I spent time just proofreading
06:01
and editing, which really wasn't all that difficult
06:04
because we were flying out to... Washington state
06:07
a few times back and forth because I'm licensed
06:09
out there and my oldest daughter lives out there
06:11
so I went to see her and I saw the patients I
06:13
need to see in person and on the flight I just
06:15
sat there with a cocktail and and edited and
06:17
it didn't feel like it took all that long you
06:22
know so you did all four books already yes and
06:27
it sounds like you did all four in less than
06:29
like what would you give it 50 hours maybe yeah
06:32
that sounds about 50 60 hours yeah yeah that's
06:35
insane like i mean anybody who's listening to
06:37
this they might immediately be like well i'm
06:39
gonna write my book this weekend you should you
06:41
totally totally should please please if you have
06:44
a a book in you do it so now the the next thing
06:49
that's coming up which people are already asking
06:51
because people are coming to like the book launch
06:53
party that's that's soon i know this as after
06:55
that so this will likely have people like oh
06:57
my god now you're gonna tell the story of of
06:59
where the journey of the journey i was like oh
07:02
no Like, I don't know. Like, there's names in
07:06
there that. Like, when do you stop with that?
07:08
Because it's like, oh, your story is so interesting.
07:11
You know, you were homeless. And now this is
07:13
what you did. And it's amazing. And it's like,
07:14
yeah, I don't know. Do I mention people I dated?
07:18
How does that work? I don't know. Where do you
07:20
go with a book about, you know, that's essentially
07:22
your story and about your life. So I was like,
07:25
let's just keep it with these books for now.
07:28
So basically what you're saying is your life
07:30
story is coming. I never say no to anything.
07:35
It's just I don't know where the lines are, you
07:38
know, what lines you draw to be like, this is
07:41
out of bounds. But then it all factors in. Like,
07:44
do I talk about my friend Susie, who I really
07:47
cared about, who committed suicide? And that
07:49
was one of the reasons I got into mental health.
07:50
Do I not? Would that upset her family and her
07:53
other friends? Like, I don't I don't know, like
07:55
where the lines are for that stuff. So I don't
07:58
know that's possible. I definitely get that because,
08:01
I mean, especially when it's like touchy subjects,
08:03
it's very it's very raw and real because, I mean,
08:06
that's one of the things you and I connected
08:07
on is my father committed suicide two days after
08:09
Christmas in 2016. So so we both have that suicide
08:13
survivor like nobody wants that title, but we
08:16
both are. And so I definitely get that. And I've
08:19
often joked that if I'm ever going to write a
08:21
memoir, I'm going to title it as I remember it.
08:24
Because the reality is what did happen versus
08:28
how I view it. That's for anyone's story. You
08:30
know what I mean? But it's like, how do I talk
08:32
about being homeless in 2010 and packing up my
08:35
car that was getting repossessed and moved out
08:37
to Florida because I was living in New York without
08:40
talking about getting divorced from my ex -wife
08:42
Regina? And how do I make it sound like I'm not
08:44
still angry at her about talking about it at
08:47
the time when I was angry at her? Now it's like,
08:50
I'm not angry at her. We have a great friendship
08:52
and we talk. all the time and I wouldn't want
08:55
anything to upset her that I would talk about
08:58
now because I'm looking at a different perspective,
09:00
but I still would want to be truthful in that
09:03
book for how I felt at the time, even though
09:05
I don't feel like that now. I definitely get
09:08
that. And I think with something that raw and
09:11
real, it's just a matter of communication. And
09:13
I mean, let's be honest, no matter what we put
09:16
out into the world, people are going to have
09:17
their opinions on it anyway. But, yeah, I think
09:21
you should write that story at some point. I've
09:24
had a lot of pride conversations with a lot of
09:26
different people to be like, listen, you're going
09:27
to read this, but that's not how I feel now.
09:29
Now everything's cool and, you know. Yeah. It's
09:33
funny you say that because there's some things
09:35
that I would like to write, but there are certain
09:37
people that would have to not be alive anymore
09:39
for it to go public. So what's funny is when
09:44
people ask me the question, I'm like, some of
09:46
these stories are really just for my therapist.
09:48
Yes. Exactly. That gives me a rerun that can
09:51
hear some of these things. You know, and I often
09:53
have said, you know, I think that all of us,
09:56
we need to write our stories down, even if they
09:58
never go public, simply because we want to remember
10:02
it. We don't want to forget it. And it's really
10:04
therapeutic. Like I personally went through something
10:07
that kind of blew up my life a couple of years
10:08
ago, and I've been writing it down just to get
10:11
through it, just to heal from it. So and I call
10:15
these sessions word vomits where I literally
10:17
sit down and I'll have a Google Doc open and
10:19
I just kind of word vomit onto the page. Everything
10:22
that I'm thinking, everything I'm going through.
10:25
And it's it's like I said, it's very therapeutic.
10:28
So journaling and journaling is a part of mental
10:30
health care. Absolutely. So word vomit meets
10:34
journaling. So, but yeah, I didn't know that
10:38
background that, that it was Susie that led you
10:40
into mental health field. It was one of the reasons.
10:42
Yeah. Yeah. My other reason was my dad who had
10:44
severe PTSD and being his primary caregiver while
10:49
I was a primary school, a nursing school, I got
10:51
to witness firsthand his flashbacks and to see
10:55
how bad it was. And even my mom who lived, you
10:58
know, lived with him, didn't know how bad it
11:00
was. And I would tell her. And she would just
11:02
be like, that's not what he does. I'm like, that's
11:04
not what he's doing. Like, yeah, that's exactly
11:05
what he's doing. Actually, no, he's reminiscing
11:07
and just the memories are coming. I'm like, no,
11:09
he's living it. He's in that moment. He's, you
11:12
know, he's right there back in Vietnam in those
11:14
in those times, you know. So that was the other
11:16
reason I got into mental health. That's I mean,
11:19
that's really awesome, because I think that I
11:22
truly believe that more people need to be talking
11:24
about mental health. And I don't like that in
11:27
so many cultures and so many places, it's still
11:30
such a taboo subject. And it's like, dude, if
11:33
we don't stop these cycles, people are still
11:36
going to hurt people. So I'm in a networking
11:38
group, like I mentioned, a BNI group and all
11:40
the tradesmen in the group. No one will do a
11:43
one to one with me, except like maybe one or
11:45
two. Because the rest of it, the rest of the
11:49
guys are too macho to talk about mental health.
11:51
And it's like. dude, we're having one -to -one
11:53
to see how we can help each other's business.
11:55
I'm not analyzing you. And I hate to say this.
11:57
I don't care that much to analyze you in my free
11:59
time. I'm trying to build my business. So you
12:02
sitting in my office with me for an hour, I'm
12:04
not analyzing you when we're here to discuss
12:06
your business and my business. You know, they're
12:10
just like, no, get out of here with that crap.
12:12
Yeah. And if you want to be honest, like, as
12:14
far as I'm concerned, the most macho thing you
12:16
can do is to actually get something. Yes. Like
12:18
that is, that's where true strength lies. It
12:21
really does. I tell people all the time, which
12:24
is one of the side businesses that I have now,
12:26
it's called Firebird Vitality, and it's meant
12:28
to be a coaching for men to be better men. The
12:31
archetypes of our dads, I'm a Gen Xer, so the
12:35
archetypes of our fathers, they don't hold anymore.
12:37
That John Wayne type, that dirty Harry type,
12:42
it had its time and place, and it's not anymore.
12:45
Now we should be emulating Keanu Reeves, Ryan
12:48
Reynolds. Hugh Jackman. These are the men that
12:53
we should be emulating and looking up to. And
12:57
the characters that they play in their movies.
12:59
I mean, John Wick goes off because his dog was
13:03
killed and his car wrecked. Who hasn't been distraught
13:07
because their dog has passed? I think that's
13:12
a better character than any John Wick character
13:14
ever played. Facts. Absolute facts. So but getting
13:18
back to the book, if someone came to you and
13:20
they're like, OK, Andrew, I want to write a nonfiction
13:23
book and I want it to be something that's actually
13:25
going to help me in my business. Where do I begin?
13:28
What's the very first thing that you would say
13:29
to them? You want to get a chat GPT business
13:32
account because it gives you all that extra space
13:35
and time. Right. Whereas the free account, you're
13:37
limited and you just put in, you know, you start
13:41
doing some blogs like on our website for all
13:43
of our businesses. We have blogs to keep them
13:45
updated and shows that they're active. And this
13:47
way it starts to get a feel for who you are.
13:50
It starts to learn your voice, right? So then
13:53
it's, hey, I want to write a book on how someone
13:56
can, it doesn't matter, how someone can start
13:58
a podcast, okay? Because here are my credentials
14:01
and here are the steps I took. Come up with 10
14:04
questions, okay? And ChatGPT will give you those
14:07
10 questions and then those are your chapters,
14:10
just like I did. Each chapter, each prompt will
14:14
be. and each prompt now is what you write on.
14:17
And then you just sit and you answer the question
14:18
honestly and genuinely. Now, when you started,
14:23
I'm kind of curious as to what kind of prompts
14:27
you used. I know you said you took a class, but
14:29
are you comfortable sharing with me what some
14:31
of your prompts look like? Oh, hold on. As I
14:34
go to the book here, I could just tell you what
14:37
the prompts are because you should have it here
14:40
on the breakdown. I'll look for it's from prescription
14:46
to promotion and marketing tactics that heal
14:48
your bottom line. And it was just from survival
14:51
marketing to strategic brand building. And that
14:54
was one of my prompts. How did I go from basic
14:57
marketing to building a brand? And it gave me
15:01
back, it gave me a formal prompt of that. And
15:05
the same thing, what are branding and first impressions?
15:08
And it gave me that question. I just answered
15:11
honestly of what it meant to me. And then building
15:14
your digital hub from your website and EMR integration.
15:17
How did we build our digital hub? That was the
15:19
question. Social media is presence without pressure.
15:24
So I just put in there, what does social media
15:27
mean to me? And it's just, you have to post on
15:29
your social media pages to appease the algorithm,
15:34
okay? And it just gets you out there and lets
15:36
people know that you're out there, but it's not
15:38
a sales pitch. It's just, this is what we do.
15:40
These are the services that we offer. If you
15:43
need us, we're here for you. There's no pressure
15:45
because it's mental health. I'm not selling anything
15:48
other than access to mental health. How did I
15:53
build local engagement? How did I build up on
15:55
local engagement and sponsorships? Networking
16:00
and professional partnerships. Each one kind
16:02
of leads into the other. So there was a flow
16:05
to it. What advertising did I pay for? So chapter
16:10
seven is paid advertising is fuel, but not the
16:12
engine. And it isn't. Advertising isn't meant
16:15
to be what gets you. It's your fuel that gets
16:18
you in front of people. What other tactics have
16:22
we used for patient retention? Well, we use emails.
16:26
We just started doing email blasts, right? Or
16:32
as a newsletter. So we just update patients and,
16:35
hey, here's the latest blogs. Here's some latest
16:37
articles that we've come across. And it's just
16:40
a reminder of, hey, we're still out here. And
16:43
more so for patients that fall off. Patients
16:45
fall off in anything, any business. Your clients
16:48
fall off, whether it's weight loss, whether it's
16:51
advertising. They just fall off for whatever
16:52
reason. With mental health, patients start to
16:56
get stable and they get comfortable and they
16:58
think, I don't need my medications anymore. And
17:00
in many cases, they don't. But in the times that
17:03
they do, It's like they feel bad to come back
17:05
because they ghosted you. We take patients back,
17:10
no questions asked. Because I want you to get
17:14
the help. Because my goal with treatment is I
17:17
want you to not need me anymore. I want you to
17:21
come to me and say, hey, Andrew, I think this
17:22
is our last appointment. Awesome. That's great.
17:26
Especially when they're going to therapy and
17:27
they're doing the work. The medications are just
17:30
meant to be a tool. not something that you live
17:32
on. It's kind of my philosophy, which we can
17:34
get at you if you want, or save that for another
17:35
time. So when a patient falls off for whatever
17:39
reason, or even just say, hey, Andrew, I don't
17:42
need you anymore. I think I'm good. No problem.
17:44
When, if you ever feel that you do, please come
17:47
back. I'll get you right in. Okay. So now for
17:50
a patient, let's just say they're one of my substance
17:52
abuse patients and they're doing well. They have
17:55
lots of boxing and then I titrate them down.
17:57
They don't need me anymore. They have a relapse.
18:00
Which happens, we're all human beings, right?
18:01
They go back, they get back on painkillers or
18:04
opiates or whatever. They get that email blast
18:07
of the newsletter and like, oh, this is the guy
18:10
I went to, he helped me. Let me call him because
18:13
he always said I could come back, no questions
18:15
asked. As long as you don't have a balance, I'll
18:17
get you in tomorrow. You know, any of the nurse
18:20
practitioners, we have six nurse practitioners
18:21
and four therapists. We'll get you in tomorrow
18:23
with one of us, even if it's not with me. But
18:25
if you reach out like, hey, Andrew, I need to
18:27
be seen. No problem. I know Jesse has an opening
18:29
tomorrow. We'll get you in with Jesse. No big
18:30
deal. OK, so that's a chapter in the book because
18:35
people don't realize it. And it worked really
18:38
well for us. Reputation management and reviews.
18:42
One of the clients that I have found me on Google
18:48
and only signed with. I've practiced signing
18:51
with them as their exclusive mental health provider
18:54
for their business because I had so many positive
18:56
Google reviews. At the time, I think I had like
18:58
30 or 40. Now we have like 120. And of the 120,
19:01
three or four of them are one star because you
19:04
can't please everybody. But I still get angry
19:07
when I see them because it's just like, oh, yeah.
19:11
But, you know, three of them say, you know, it
19:13
was because of payments. Like, you know, Andrew
19:15
stopped seeing me because I wouldn't pay for
19:16
services. Yeah, it's a business. I still have
19:19
to feed my children. You know, like I can't,
19:21
if I could treat everyone for free and still
19:24
feed my children, I'd be doing that too, you
19:26
know, without question. And then it was like
19:29
building your marketing plan and staying consistent
19:32
because it's like, that's what you do, but you
19:34
have to stay consistent. And it was, it was all
19:37
really, I don't want to say easy to do, I guess
19:40
just because we wanted to do it because I have
19:42
classes coming out like that teach these things.
19:45
So the classes will coincide with each book.
19:47
Okay. So going all the way back to book one,
19:50
did you when you first sat down with ChatGPT,
19:53
did you say like act as my book coach or what
19:56
did you say? There's someone interviewing me
19:59
for an interview on how to start your own telemedicine
20:02
practice. OK. With 10 basic questions. OK, so
20:08
if someone were to let's say they want to start
20:10
a food blog, they would kind of just say to ChatGPT
20:15
like. Pretend you're well -versed in food blogging.
20:19
Yes. And interview me as if, you know, that kind
20:22
of... I am a world -renowned food taster. Yes.
20:27
And reviewer. And it'll come up with the questions
20:29
for you. And there it is. And you tell it how
20:31
many questions you want. I just think 10 was
20:32
a nice round number. And we could keep the book
20:35
small because I don't want it to be too expensive.
20:38
So, and that was it. Where it's like, I want
20:40
it to be something someone can read and still
20:42
refer back to pretty easily. So do you have plans
20:46
for future books? Under our coaching consulting
20:51
brand, yes. Under Excelsior Consulting, two of
20:55
the therapists that work with us are really,
20:57
really knowledgeable and they want to be able
20:59
to teach nurse practitioners how to do therapy.
21:03
This way it gets people better at quicker access
21:05
sometimes. Because for therapists, sometimes
21:08
it's some practice. That was us. We see people
21:10
say, you know, sometimes same day. The wait could
21:13
be like three to four months. But for nerve cartissiers
21:17
and med management, you might be able to get
21:19
in even in a busy practice within a week. So
21:22
if you can get in to see someone for therapy
21:24
in a week, by all means, go for it. And now it's
21:26
another service that you can offer. So we're
21:29
going to help the two of them write books and
21:31
come up with classes that'll go on our website
21:34
for people to purchase and go from there. Awesome.
21:38
I love it. And, you know, one of the big reasons
21:39
that I wanted to bring you on to talk about books,
21:42
and I know that some people that are listening
21:44
to this might wonder, you know, you had someone
21:46
who's writing a nonfiction book and now you got
21:48
someone who's writing a fiction book. But the
21:50
reason why is because I kind of see the writing
21:52
on the wall, man. Like everybody is going to
21:55
chat GPT to ask questions now. They're not, they're
21:57
not just going to bloggers anymore. And so the
22:00
reality is if we still want to make money as
22:03
bloggers or business owners or whatever, we need
22:07
more than just a website. Right. For sure. It's,
22:10
it's like, you know, the technology is there.
22:12
You have to advance with the times and use it
22:15
to your advantage. You can use chat. If you're
22:17
a blogger and you know, you aren't using chat
22:20
GPT to the very least, Hey, come up with the.
22:22
top 10 search words on Google for my blog, you
22:27
know, now you can incorporate those keywords,
22:30
those SEO words into your next post. So you could
22:33
come up, you know, people find us sometimes not
22:36
because they put in mental health near me or
22:39
mental health in their zip code. They would put
22:41
in substance abuse near me. Well, we have, we
22:43
have blogs on substance abuse. You know, we have
22:46
blogs on therapy where it's like on types of
22:48
therapy where it's like, okay, couples counseling.
22:51
You don't just always look for couples counseling
22:53
near me. You might look for the type of couples
22:55
counseling that you need. And because we have
22:59
a blog on that and, you know, but again, ChatGPT
23:02
will tell us and they'll give us real time analytics
23:05
that we don't have to wait for. Do you use ChatGPT
23:09
for your blogging as well? Like not for actually
23:11
writing it. Not for actually writing, but for
23:13
coming up with the topics. Yes. I love it. I
23:16
love it. So and the cool thing about it is like
23:18
these these AI search engines, they can view
23:21
things really quickly. Like I like Claude personally.
23:25
I prefer it over chat GPT just because, you know,
23:28
it's just a thing I prefer. But I asked it a
23:31
simple question and I did the research button
23:35
and it literally said reading 572 websites. Yes.
23:40
In less than 60 seconds. The blogs that I write
23:45
have to be like an APA format and they have to
23:47
have research associated with them. I will use
23:49
chat GPT of find me the latest research within
23:52
the last three years on whatever the topic is.
23:56
So now I'm not spending that time going on Google
23:58
scholar, looking stuff up. It's boom. Here it
24:01
is. Oh, cool. Here are 10 articles. I'll be able
24:02
to, I'll read four of them or five of them. And
24:05
of that, I should be able to pull three out that
24:07
I can, that I can use something from without
24:10
wasting that time. So now it just made my, my
24:12
time. made me more efficient and time management
24:15
skills have gone up. So I can get other stuff
24:18
done rather than, you know, in all honesty, it
24:21
could take you two hours to find the articles
24:22
that you need sometimes, you know, for reference
24:25
and make sure that they're viable. So now I just
24:27
put it, no Wikipedia links, you know, whatever
24:29
my parameters are, boom, boom, boom, here it
24:32
is. Or I could tell it to look at Google Scholar
24:35
only and come up with stuff. So it's like, okay,
24:37
now this stuff's already filtered for me. That's
24:41
absolutely awesome. And I'll leave in the show
24:43
notes. I actually wrote an article for GoDaddy
24:46
titled How to Write a Blog Post Properly Using
24:49
AI. And it's so important that we talk about
24:53
how. You know, you can't just trust what comes
24:56
to you as is. You need to go to every single
24:59
website that it suggests as your references and
25:01
and obviously fact check. But just the time savings.
25:05
I mean, what used to take me 10 hours can sometimes
25:08
take me as little as two now. And honestly, the
25:11
biggest portion of that two hours is hunting
25:13
for photos. Oh, yes. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of
25:17
course. So another thing that you and I have
25:20
in common, and this is completely like. not related
25:24
to to chat gpt or or maybe it is like oh this
25:29
might get spicy so another thing you and i have
25:31
in common is fitness now yes and so i'm i well
25:34
i gotta ask the question do you ever use chat
25:36
gpt for fitness no um i i use instagram okay
25:42
okay how do you use instagram for i've used instagram
25:45
by i'll just put in a search of latest kettlebell
25:48
workouts or um What did I put in to find my hammer
25:53
workouts? Unorthodox fitness training. That's
25:57
where I found the hammers that you see me use.
26:00
I'm a huge wrestling fan. Especially old school
26:05
wrestling. I put in unorthodox workout routines
26:10
and there's a video of the Iron Sheik doing his
26:12
Persian Club Challenge on wrestling TV shows
26:16
in the 70s and 80s. I did some research on it
26:19
and I was like, Oh, this is a legit thing. The
26:21
entire world uses kettlebells and clubs except
26:23
for us here in America. And I was like, okay,
26:26
let me find them. They're difficult at the time.
26:29
They were difficult to find here in America.
26:31
But there's a company. They make these hammers.
26:34
And I was like, I'll just get those. They look
26:36
insane. Well, I got a 45 -pound, one 45 -pound
26:39
hammer. And I was like, oh, yeah, I can't do
26:41
anything with this. This was about two years
26:43
ago. I was like, oh, let me go to the 25 pounds.
26:45
And my goal last year on my birthday. was to
26:48
be able to do the Iron Sheet Challenge with these
26:50
hammers of doing these halos and doing 100. Well,
26:53
I did that two or three weeks ago. So I do use,
26:58
I use a search engine, essentially. I use, you
27:00
know, Instagram to find the workouts. So any
27:02
workout routine you see me doing on my social
27:06
medias, I found on Instagram or TikTok. You know,
27:10
there's a guy, Bill Nye. No, that's a science
27:13
guy. Bill Need. Bill Needy. Okay. In Hawaiian.
27:17
He does all of these offset stance exercises
27:20
and off -balance weight lifting. I know I can
27:24
curl with a 100 -pound dumbbell because I've
27:27
done it, like, 20 reps. It's crazy, but I can
27:29
do it. But if you load a dumbbell, a barbell,
27:34
with an uneven, disproportionate amount of weight
27:37
and inverse your grip, like I'm showing right
27:40
now for the camera, it's insanely difficult.
27:43
So I took a weight. I took 25 pounds. I'll put
27:46
25 pounds on one side, nothing on the other side.
27:50
And I will do this inverse grip and I move slowly,
27:52
but you feel it. Like it's, it's like doing a
27:56
puck with a 20 and you're just like, Oh my God,
27:59
but just 25 pounds. Like I can curl a hundred.
28:02
Does it matter? Because your stance is off. Okay.
28:06
And you make your stance off this way. Your core
28:08
is engaged. Cause everything I do is just work
28:11
my core. Cause I have a belly. No matter what
28:12
I do, it's like to be 350 pounds at. Now at 225,
28:17
230, because it's muscle. When I get down to
28:19
210, my core, my belly is always going to be
28:23
there. No matter what I do, unless I go get a
28:25
tummy tuck, because now it's all stretched skin.
28:27
But I still work my core excessively. Everything
28:29
I do is a staggered stance for that reason, and
28:34
lunges. I do lunges every day because of, what's
28:38
the guy's name? Corey Graves, I think is his
28:42
name. He's a fitness guide. He's in Ohio. He
28:45
talks, he preaches about how lunges help people
28:49
as they get older to maintain quality of life.
28:52
So it's like, okay, I will do lunges. Found some
28:55
workout guy on TikTok where it says if you're
28:58
doing front lunges and you're over the age of
29:00
45 and you're struggling, it's because after
29:02
the age of 45, your center of gravity shifts,
29:04
do back lunges. I was like, oh my goodness. Okay,
29:07
this makes it a lot easier. No problem. Could
29:10
do 250, 300 back lunges every day. And not fall.
29:14
Yeah, I was doing weighted lunges before we got
29:17
on this call, and I've been being haunted by
29:20
a 20 -pound dumbbell, but that's for another
29:22
story. But Reader's Digest version, doing lunges
29:25
with a 20 -pound dumbbell, I thought I was going
29:27
to die. Oh, yes. I've done it with my 100 -pound
29:31
sandbag, so it's rough. Oh, my God. And I even
29:34
thought of you yesterday. I was doing Zumba at
29:36
a local gym here, and they had sledgehammers
29:39
on the wall, and I was like, oh, it made me think
29:41
of you. yeah so now i have the hammers i have
29:45
a weighted club i have a weighted mace and then
29:47
i have weighted what's the other one no yeah
29:51
i have two weight of the hammers two maces two
29:54
clubs at a mace yeah so like but the each club
29:56
i have different weights on one's really heavy
29:58
at 25 pounds and now the 25 pound hammer is a
30:03
lot lighter than the 25 pound mace because the
30:05
handle's longer so now the the balance on it
30:08
is more so i could only if you get that around
30:10
like 30 times But the hammers in one each hand,
30:13
I could get, you know, 50 times each each one.
30:16
But that that mace, because that longer handle
30:19
25 or 30 times is all I can get it for right
30:21
now. Wow. Yeah. The reason I was asking you about
30:24
the chat GPT and I won't call him out, even though
30:26
he knows who he is, because I know he sometimes
30:28
listens to the show. There's a guy he my bloggy
30:32
friend. He puts in chat GPT, like, give me a
30:35
really good workout for blah, blah, blah. And,
30:37
you know, it's fascinating how you can literally
30:40
ask these AI agents anything. It's absolutely
30:45
fascinating. And I got to say, in the beginning,
30:48
I was so anti -AI. I was pissed off. We're all
30:53
thinking Skynet. Well, it's not just that, but
30:55
it's also like, you know, watching clients let
30:58
you go because, oh, well, ChatGPT can do that
31:01
faster than you. It's like, yeah, it could do
31:04
it faster than me. But does it also fact check?
31:06
Does it also do all the things I do to make it
31:08
better? No. There's always going to be a human
31:13
element. And there has to be. Yes. Even with
31:17
the book. Yes. Yeah. So what was your favorite
31:21
part about writing your book? I see you smiling.
31:28
No, I'm trying not to get choked up. was asking
31:32
the four people who wrote the forwards to write
31:35
the forwards for me. Actually, five people. I
31:38
had five people. One book has two forwards. Asking
31:42
them was my absolute favorite part. It really
31:45
was. And the time I got to spend with Ryan, because
31:47
here it is, you're sitting around with your buddy
31:49
bullshitting, which we do anyway, even though
31:51
it's supposed to be working. And it's like, now
31:53
we had a purpose for bullshitting rather than,
31:55
you know, just business business. It was this
31:58
totally different. thing to experience. I can't
32:03
even... But the forwards were definitely my favorite.
32:06
My favorite. To ask the four people what it was.
32:09
And then when they said the back to me, you're
32:11
like, oh my god, you know, these people putting
32:14
into words what you actually mean to them and
32:16
what you've done for them. Well, I have to know,
32:19
did you use ChatGPT to figure out how to promote
32:22
the books now that they are going live? No, we
32:25
didn't. We are kind of using some old school
32:27
methods. I guess one way is, because it came
32:35
to us, someone told us, so maybe they found it
32:38
out from ChatDVT, I can't say, but we're doing
32:40
a book launch and a book signing, which is kind
32:42
of old school. And then what we're doing is,
32:46
and again, this podcast is coming out after the
32:49
party, because the launch party is November 5th.
32:52
So what we're doing is, or what we did for the
32:56
sake of the show, put a QR code up at the night
33:00
of the event. And we're like, now the book is
33:03
officially live. Everyone goes at once and gets
33:06
it. And it comes up on a heavy traffic book,
33:09
you know, on the algorithm. So then Amazon will
33:12
then push it more. Well, speaking of books, how
33:16
are you publishing it? Like, how is this happening?
33:18
Did you get a date? It's all self -published.
33:20
It's all on Amazon. It's on Amazon. Favorite
33:23
way. Absolute favorite way. It's a physical and
33:25
a Kindle. So whatever you want, the option is
33:28
there for you. Oh, so you're doing a physical
33:30
too. How did that work? I wish I brought it today.
33:34
I forgot. It looks really good. It's actually
33:38
sick when it came in the mail. I was like, what
33:40
the hell is this? I didn't buy a book. Because
33:42
I read comic books, but I read comic books on
33:44
the Marvel Unlimited app. So I'm not ever expecting
33:46
a book. I'm like, I don't get a book. And I open
33:48
it up. I was like, oh, it's my book. Look at
33:50
that. And it's like... It's definitely, it was
33:54
a moment for sure. So they sent you a proof then?
33:57
Yeah, they sent me like, because we ordered an
33:58
author copy. You could do that. They'll send
34:00
you author copies. I think at the house, I think
34:02
I have 10 that we're going to like sign that
34:04
night, personalize and then sell for whatever
34:06
and give them right to a local charity. So now
34:09
with actually printing a physical copy, how does
34:12
that work with Amazon? I'm genuinely curious.
34:14
They do it and they ship it to you. Okay. But
34:17
you see that, like I could still go in right
34:19
now and even though book one is. done and completed
34:22
and live i can go in and add a page to book one
34:25
for the next person to buy it you know they'll
34:28
get this new and this updated version now does
34:31
it have an isbn number yes it's all efficient
34:34
yes okay so you can put it on like barnes and
34:37
noble if you yes i could do anything with it
34:39
yes right now see this is right there that is
34:42
why i prefer self -publishing over waiting for
34:44
a publisher because you don't need anybody for
34:47
you in the chat yeah Sounds great. Cause you
34:50
don't need anybody to validate you. You need
34:52
to validate yourself. Yeah. Which is like when
34:55
people say to me, Hey, are you going to go for
34:57
your PhD? And I think about it and put the link
35:00
for you. And it's like, well, why? Like who does
35:03
where you can get published? I I'm public. I'm
35:05
published now. I have a blog that we, you know,
35:07
that I update every, every day on my website.
35:11
People interviewing, I've written articles for
35:13
local magazines. I have a book now. We have four
35:16
books. We have classes that are going to come
35:18
out. It's like, do I really need the PhD now?
35:24
It would be great. It's an ego thing. And at
35:26
the end of the day, my real ego stroke is, can
35:30
I feed my family and not have to kill myself
35:32
and work 80 hours a week? Because once I don't
35:34
have to work 80 hours a week anymore, that's
35:36
all I really, that's my goal. Yeah. Absolutely.
35:39
And I mean, running three businesses, I'm sure
35:42
you work an insane amount of hours. Yes. Yeah.
35:44
It's six days a week, about 15, 16 hours a day.
35:46
I can't even imagine. Oh, my goodness. So even
35:50
more reason that I'm so thankful that you took
35:52
the time out to talk to me. So now you are releasing
35:56
the first one. You said November, I know October
35:59
6th is the first one. The first book is already
36:02
out for purchase, but we're not telling anyone
36:04
to publicize it until the book party on November
36:07
5th. Okay, well, then it's a good thing this
36:09
doesn't come out until two days later. Yes, yes.
36:12
I remember you telling me that. So I was like,
36:14
you know, before, I was like, oh, that's perfect.
36:15
The timing was perfect. Yeah, so if you're listening
36:18
to this, it's already live. It'll be in the show
36:20
notes. So when can we anticipate two, three,
36:23
and four to come out? By November 5th, they will
36:26
all be out. All four will be on Amazon, yes.
36:30
Oh, that's exciting. Okay, cool. So now I'm curious.
36:32
I can see your cover art and your back cover
36:35
art. How did you? Make your cover art happen.
36:38
The cover art, really, Ryan came to my office
36:42
one day. He said, we've got to do cover art.
36:43
And I just kept telling him, just do whatever.
36:45
Leave me alone. I can't be bothered. So what
36:46
he did, because he's a friend who knows me really
36:48
well, he came up with the worst looking thing
36:50
possible. Just so that I can say, this is, wait,
36:53
can I curse? I don't want to curse if I can.
36:55
Yes, you can curse. I don't care. This looks
36:57
like shit. What the actual fuck are you doing?
37:01
He's like, well, just sit here and do it. So
37:04
I was like, where? So he showed me. It was all
37:05
on Canva. We did it. And I was like, here, this
37:09
is better than what the fuck you did. He's like,
37:11
that's what I wanted. Yes. It's funny you say
37:14
that. It's so funny you say that. Do you ever
37:18
go on Reddit? No. So this girl on Reddit, what
37:22
she does is if she wants an answer to a question
37:25
that's technology related, she will go to a fake
37:30
account and answer her question incorrectly.
37:33
just so she can get the answer she's looking
37:35
for. Because people don't want to help, but they'll
37:37
tell you why you did it wrong. Yes, they'll tell
37:40
you why you did it wrong. I love it so much.
37:45
So November 5th, all the books will be live.
37:47
Okay, so what's next after that? You said you
37:50
were going to be teaching classes. I think it'll
37:52
be online in person. No, they'll be online. So
37:57
I'll do the class once. We upload it and it'll
38:02
just like pretty much. So what the book is now,
38:05
because it's in a book form, we can then put
38:07
that into PowerPoint form. I can then talk about
38:10
it in each slide in detail and then that will
38:13
record it. And there's a class like each book
38:15
will be a class. Wow. So you basically just took
38:18
one asset and turned it into multiple forms of
38:21
content. Yes. And the book is. Price cheap enough
38:24
where if you have to pay for the class, at least
38:27
you have the book, too, because it's going to
38:29
be like a textbook for the class. OK, so what's
38:34
next for that? Like, are you going to do an audio
38:35
book? Are you going to start a podcast? What's
38:37
happening next? So because we do coaching and
38:40
consulting, what I might do is have some of my
38:43
coaching clients sit down for a session and I'll
38:48
record that as a podcast. And now the podcast
38:50
will be a means of promoting. the classes, and
38:53
I'll stop charging them for coaching at that
38:55
point, if they're willing to be recorded. If
38:57
they're not recorded, pay for this coaching,
38:59
but if they are willing to be recorded, I'll
39:02
do it for free, and it'll be an hour, hour and
39:03
a half, and then we'll edit it to be 45 minutes
39:06
for a podcast episode. I dig it, and if you want
39:12
to do it with RSS .com, I can hook you up with
39:14
613. Yes, very cool. Yeah, we'll leave a link
39:18
in the show notes for that as well. I can get
39:20
everybody six months free because I am a brand
39:23
ambassador for the company. Very proud of RSS
39:26
.com. So what else do you want to tell me about
39:29
these books? How do you see them working into
39:33
your grand scheme of things with feeding your
39:35
children? I think they're going to be beneficial
39:39
to anyone who's sick of their corporate medicine
39:42
job, who sits there and is like, I can do this
39:45
better on my own. Well, you can. You can't. If
39:47
I can, and I firmly believe this, if I could
39:50
do this, you can. And the hardest part is getting
39:53
started. The hardest part is saying, I'm walking
39:55
away from a six -figure salary to make maybe
39:59
nothing. And it was a hard sell. And I know.
40:03
I had to have the conversation with my wife.
40:05
And in the book, I talk about that, where having
40:09
that supportive partner matters because you're
40:13
going to have those moments of, I can't do this.
40:15
What am I doing? And if they are not your biggest
40:17
cheerleader, they have to be a bigger cheerleader
40:19
than you are for yourself. And I have this in
40:22
the book, so I'm not giving anything away. If
40:25
they're not, and only because I've seen it with
40:27
other friends of mine who are nurse practitioners
40:29
and their spouse, you're going to have those
40:31
moments of doubt where you say out loud to your
40:34
partner, because he's your best friend, I don't
40:37
think I can do this. And if they are not 1 ,000
40:40
% behind you, if they say, yeah, maybe you can't,
40:44
you're screwed. And if they are really against
40:48
you, you're doing this thing like, yeah, I told
40:51
you you can't do it. You're absolutely right.
40:53
And it's like, that's not what you want. That's
40:55
the last thing you need, because that doubt will
40:57
now go from a little seed of doubt to an oak
41:00
tree of doubt. And you don't need that. You need
41:03
it where it's like a weed of doubt. And it comes
41:06
up out of the cracks of the sidewalk. And you're
41:08
like, yes, my doubt. And you need your partner
41:10
to rip that out and throw it. Now, it sounds
41:12
like it sounds like based on what you just described.
41:15
Though this book is intended for nurse practitioners,
41:18
it sounds like a lot of the philosophies in there
41:21
are for everybody. It really is. I have a friend
41:24
of mine. He is a financial planner. And when
41:27
I put it, I put the idea of the book launch party.
41:29
He mentions me. He's like, I want to come to
41:31
your, I want to come and I want to buy your book.
41:33
And I was like, okay. He's like, I think, I think
41:36
with the right guidance, I can mimic what you
41:38
did for my, for my finance company. And I was
41:41
like, okay, you probably can. There's nothing
41:43
to say that you can't, you know, because like
41:45
you said, the philosophies are pretty universal.
41:48
You have to get out of that mindset of being
41:50
the worker bee and being the owner bee, you know.
41:55
I'm in the same boat. I mean, I want to mimic
41:57
it for how to start a podcast, how to start a
41:59
blog, how to start a YouTube channel, all the
42:01
things. Because, I mean, if nothing else, I'm
42:03
a content creator. That is my jam. And now you're
42:07
just taking your expertise that you have on that
42:10
topic. And putting it in a different format so
42:12
other people could emulate it. They're just having
42:16
a bot ask you how you do what you do. Yes. Yes.
42:19
Yeah. Well, any last minute advice that you can
42:22
offer to everybody who's listening? Bet on yourself.
42:28
Oh, I love that. Are you familiar with James
42:31
Altucher? No. He has a book. It's called Choose
42:34
Yourself. And it literally, like, this is not
42:38
exaggeration. It changed my life. like bet on
42:42
yourself is definitely sorry yes so i i mentioned
42:47
i mentioned this person in book two and book
42:50
four my good friend jennifer copper she came
42:53
to me i had just started i had just gotten into
42:56
like a physical location i just got an office
42:57
and she she was working for a uh a corporate
43:00
you know uh a minute clinic type deal that's
43:04
inside of a chain of drug stores um And she's
43:08
like, I think I want to. And she's dual certified.
43:09
She could do medical and mental health. And she's
43:12
like, I think I want to start my own mental health
43:13
practice. I was like, do it. And I gave her some
43:15
steps to follow. And, you know, we started talking.
43:17
Now, she was a stranger at the time. I didn't
43:19
know her really from anywhere other than she
43:20
was in the area. And she was like, I want to
43:24
say that was like May, June. She came back like
43:27
a month later and was like, hey, my company found
43:29
out I have my practice and they want to, they
43:32
tell me I have to get rid of it or else I'm going
43:34
to lose my job. I was like, how much time do
43:35
they give you? She gave me 90 days. I was like,
43:37
okay, so milk it for 90 days and collect your
43:41
paycheck. And so build up. She's like, I think
43:42
I have to close. I was like, don't. Don't do
43:45
it. She came back two or three weeks before the
43:49
deadline to pretty much ask me to take her patients.
43:53
And I was like, I'm not taking your patients.
43:55
And she said, what? What are they going to do?
43:57
I was like, you're treating your patients. She's
44:00
like, what do you mean? I was like, you're not
44:01
quitting your job. You're doing this. And she's
44:05
like, I can't. I can't walk away from this paycheck.
44:06
It's too good. I was like, I don't care. I said,
44:09
I'm not taking your patience. So the deadline
44:12
was like, I want to say it was the last Friday
44:14
of November before Thanksgiving. So she sent
44:17
me a text that Monday. And it was the middle
44:21
of the day. She's like, what are you and Jenny?
44:23
Jenny's my wife. She's like, what are you and
44:24
Jenny doing tonight? I was like, I don't know,
44:25
nothing. Why? She said, meet me and my wife for
44:28
dinner. I want to talk to you. I was like, okay,
44:30
whatever. We'll be good. We're friends at this
44:31
point. Yeah, of course. So we get to dinner.
44:34
I was like, what? She's like, they're closing
44:36
the clinic. I was like, what? She's like, everyone's
44:39
last day is Friday. I said, okay. And she's like,
44:43
I am so glad that you said no and you did not
44:46
take my patients. She's like, because I'd be
44:48
screwed. And now on Monday, Thanksgiving week,
44:52
I'd be starting all over again. And those patients
44:54
would not come back to me. Even if you gave them
44:56
to me, they wouldn't trust me. I was like, yeah,
44:57
you would have lost them. So now her clinic is
45:01
really nice size. She has two offices. It's grown.
45:04
She has multiple providers. She's following my
45:06
model of how I add my providers here. She's doing
45:09
the same. And she wrote the foreword for book
45:15
two. And in book four, I talk about collaboration
45:17
versus competition. And I just wrote that whole
45:20
thing. And I just told her, I wrote that down
45:22
and put that there. And if I would have said
45:24
no to her. The first day she came in and asked
45:26
for help because she's competition. She's opened
45:28
a mental health clinic in Newport Ritchie where
45:30
I am. I would rob myself of of a good friendship.
45:34
But at the same time, all she did was bet on
45:37
herself, which is what I told her to do. The
45:40
worst that happens is you fail. You go get another
45:42
job. I know it's not easy, but we have letters
45:45
after I name and those letters make us employable.
45:50
Recession, depression, terrible time, riots,
45:53
plagues. I did not miss a day of work just as
45:57
an RN during the pandemic. I was fortunate. That
45:59
was why I got into medicine because I was in
46:02
construction management when the economy crashed
46:04
in 2007 and eight and nine and 10. And I was
46:08
out of work, which led me to be homeless, which
46:10
led me to move down to Florida. So it's like,
46:13
what is bulletproof to get a paycheck? The medical
46:18
field. And that was all I said to her is the
46:20
worst that happens is you fail, you'll get another
46:22
job. It'll be tough for six months. It will.
46:25
Through a year. It will. But you'll get a job.
46:27
Just bet on yourself. And to this day, she, you
46:31
know, I sent a drug rep to her office that she
46:33
needed to talk to about a month ago. And the
46:36
drug rep came back here. He was like, oh, my
46:37
God, Jennifer Cochran talked about you for like
46:38
an hour about how she owes everything to you.
46:40
I was like, she really does it. She owes it to
46:41
herself because she bet on herself. All I was
46:44
was the messenger. So, yes, my last bit of advice
46:47
to anyone, please bet on yourself. Please. Well,
46:51
I have to ask. Is that part of your philosophy
46:54
on mental health is to bet on yourself or what
46:57
is your philosophy? As you if you come in here
47:00
for help, whether it's with me or one of the
47:02
other nurse practitioners or therapists, you
47:04
already did the hardest part. You realize you
47:07
needed help and you picked up the phone and found
47:10
help. So you've already bet on yourself, whether
47:14
you realize it or not. You already said, I need
47:17
help. I can't do this on my own. I need help
47:20
from someone. It's just like if you were carrying
47:22
something heavy and you're like, why am I going
47:25
to carry my furniture to a moving truck? I'm
47:27
going to hire a moving company. That's the smartest
47:29
thing to do for yourself because now you're not
47:32
going to get hurt. You're going to get it done
47:34
and there's going to be no damage to any of your
47:36
stuff. Yeah, you just bet on it. You bet on it.
47:38
You invested in yourself by hiring a moving company.
47:41
Coming from mental health, help is no different.
47:44
You're investing in yourself. Yeah, we worry
47:46
so much about our own physical health. The fact
47:49
that people don't think about their mental health
47:51
as well is like, what are you doing? It's just
47:54
as important. Well, where can people find you
47:57
online? Well, you can get me on Facebook. Just
48:00
look up Andrew Hewitt. You can get me on Instagram,
48:02
Andrew APRN. TikTok is the practice account now.
48:08
That's Caliper Wellness, caliperwellness .com,
48:11
firebirdvitality .com. That's all us. But you
48:15
just message me on any of the social medias.
48:17
I'll help you. I'll talk to you. You know, the
48:20
reason the books came about and the classes came
48:22
about is because my mentor was just like, don't
48:25
you add, you have to take coaching clients. I'm
48:26
like, yes. He's like, you're answering the same
48:28
10 questions or 20 questions. Every, every family.
48:30
Yeah. He's like, that's class. Now you did it
48:34
once. And that's it. I'm like, Oh, that's smart.
48:38
Yes, I love it. So we're going to put all the
48:40
links in the show notes. And Andrew, I just want
48:42
to thank you again for taking the time to chat
48:45
with me about all the things. Thank you. This
48:47
was awesome. Thank you so much. It was so nice
48:49
to talk to you. And once I start the fitness
48:53
podcast, we're going to have to talk again. Oh,
48:55
I would love to. I would. I would love to. Love
48:57
to, love to. All right. Thank you so much. Well,
49:01
my bloggy friends, I hope you enjoyed all the
49:03
insights our guests had to share with you. To
49:05
get the show notes for this and all episodes,
49:07
go over to famousashleygrant .com backslash podcast.
49:10
And until next time, may your page views be high
49:13
and your bounce rate be low.
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